An Interview of Girish Karnad - Parabaas Issue 37

c c@mv (kH)

@Ac

w\/TFOS/Sv@

SF

c^/BfcSf/mpA/AF gK/~AgoS/qA..

Arr/A@r

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Parabaas Moviestore

"S WvScUf AAUA" -- Awfr @S

Ql@-- ~AU SU@

~Sc :- ~e@ 

[ SvF@ Awfr @S (1938) cFU 2004 U BS T  jq fW Ql@ ~^ mpAOH @aS f @Ac R AAF@ j @ TSBS (1929-93) AcK | TkU qeAB gK Ql@Av ASAaUS ~AU SU@ | ceU ~Sc @aS ~e@  | ]
ssA, WU@, ~A T TU, SwTU, Av US m qFA @qv Sv@ OA Awfr @S | A J sBS R ASrS Tm a mAO j@ Sv@, j@r gC AAcc (A Heap of Broken Images) | Kv r@ AAS ~BS @AaUS  mUAr,  pBSrfU Ar\f Ac AAS gkAK aS gcK   S -- 1974 U Xrf, 1994 U XgkKH jce 2002 U r  AAF@ y - Sfi | aS SSS dLkH  : f Sv@ ~F@AT OTFS (1988-93), A\T ~F AvAg qSAmvAvv ~ qA Av (1974,75), Ucqv cpAof Ac AO@w AcrAcFU ~cA@ SvF@ (1987,88) jce A US gf q@ATrS Sd xv Av (2000-03)|
1993 U AO@w j@ U ~ Jv ~mO BSF gA AaUS ~Av @pGmTf TSBS -- ZSq J TpF  13q BUq |  r ca @v Awa | ~S@AU @Ac R ~Scw^ OA AAS -- @^ R qeAB q gKq wF R F w^ a J | j a OfS ATU @cF jce @^ U@@ qeAB ~Sc @aS AAS | gcK TSBS @Ac R ~Sc@ Ac cAi jce AS | A AEOTR jq q^-TA@S @Ac (AAS ASB@ cHS @S "q^-TA@S" rN ToFcf "qS" cU) BSA ca jce i@ TB pAwO aS AAS | r J AO @T -- J TpgkAT, @Sv@ BF AAS pAcf ZF ~Sc@ ~Ago ZFATS, @^ gK UZ J @Ac AcrK   S ZS; qR jce TA@S r AAS ~Sc@ jce qeAB gK rATS @Ac AO ZF |
TSBS AcK @ cU Aw Awfr @S J @pAL re \UZ @aS ~^ c jce cUaS jq m\BfcS J Acmp @T@ @ | cArgw U@ Q ~mgAc@ @ S, A@ Awfr T AAO, hO-reA R AS SvF@/ OUAhOn@/ AOU@/ ~AgS/ r@ R BPSA@ @Tf TZ ccFAv ~SF@T Tn  |
SvF@ Ac Awfr @S TSBS  TSU  U jAwaS AXgAK@ pBSrfU, g ~f qA R H @ @AAS ew, ^f TAB@ R BPSA@ Acr jce Dr R oT ~Acr | Ql@ T jq T@Q @ j AAS qm @AaUS ZAS@ | TSBS cFAw BfcS R @TBfcS ~^ ~UOS  AAS Sv@f  cU RiS, "pBSrfU, cAXoT jce @cf AcK ~AT OUAaUT TSBS T^U |" cUq   sw @S, "~r @A jq @U cU T ~T@ A@ cU TS ha S | s cU OqAa  U, ~T j@q  OUAa ~S@AS o,  @H ~AT ~SH @Aa J  | U@@, gAwfA, wTF rA@S jTS@f Av US AcK J ~fT l ~SH sAwa ~T@, sF @a O |" cO c @, AAS ~\ @@BS TSK j@BS, AsAS TSBS@ gcK R ~TA@ rq @B @ ZaS jce Jq T @^ jce qeAB q gK rATS UZ@ |

~AU : ~AT A ~S UZ ASAv SAv@ (Three Plays ) w^ gkAT@Av A UT ; ZUT TSBS ~S@ A@a AO^gcS j a Ua ~S UZ !

Awfr : R, FJ, j@ @ cU wU, AAS AaUS ~T d | ~S@ ~qAq ~AT o ASAa J @ |

~AU : j@ cU A@ sA c s TSBS BUo AA aS ~AS ~ AAS J AO^gcS A sAwaS ~S@ ? ~T TS  jv sv S o @,  OR cAr j@q B^ Rgc BA UZ@ ATUATr @B @ | ~AS A@ cUS ?

Awfr : ~AT A@ A o ASAa RS @ | ~S@ T ~AT aJ@ ASAa J ~qA ~ AUZAa @ @^ @ | TSBS cUS s j@BS ~qA ~SFBS  pBSf cmc AH R Z AAS ~S^ S | q ~SFBS jQn ~AT | ~ AAS AaUS ~Tm@ j@ ArQ@ | AAS cU sS, ~AT TS A ST | rS S ~ il ~U IU@AS, ~AT ASB@ cAU, "OTl@ ~qA ! ~AT jqgc @ @B Uw A !"

~AU : ~S T ~U @c AaU, cUcS ?

Awfr : 1955 U TSBS  ~T AO | ZS ~AT F  @A r @ oR r @Sv@ @UB b@Aa | 1954 @ 1958 ~AT ZS AaUT, wAH Ac j T | AcK Ac wAH ~T j@cq gU Uw S, A@ mv  U Acr sc BSF mUAr c cS AaU | ~T ToFAc cc-T  @T m AaU S | q @ @ O ca ~e@ AS UAaUT | @UB rK ca ~crF cI UT AcXo wAH A@ @T Hc^ AcK |

TSBS @ A ~A | sZS ~AT @Sv@ @UB an, AAS ZS  r TqU k cUwJR r AUewB @UB qeAB U@O | ZS@ AS jq v @UB@ @Sv@ AcrAcFU ~ jce @TAcB cU gc  |  ToF gfKH KAK - UZ, ZUoU jce inT cAgk empA@ @B@T | ZS@ AS r TqU ~S@v kL | q ~T ZQl  @Ug - ~^: @UB Ac@ c ~SFSF AsAw c nf ~SS | ~AT AaUT Acv ~T @UB , q AUewB @UB ~T TUF ananf  @sXo Uwq @ |

~AU : TS, TSBS  ?

Awfr : S, S, J ananf ; c ~oF@ Ac AAS ~S@ T ananf  ASS jce UZ cq ananf empA@ @s@U cU l AaU J | ~AT ZS SS ~qA BSF, cAXocpA Ar@ BU c BSF SF  WAa | c ZS @ c, 17  | ~AT j@BS d ZJBAaUT, AsAS ~T@  ZcS ; Sf @UB AUc cq cpl Bw  o AS scS ~T@ | q T BS TSK gc ~T BfcS Zc dLkH - j@BS cUwJR j TSBS, jce ~SFBS @ B r, AAS AgvwSmvqS j an jce rSrm S @Sv@ AcrAcFU | ~AT AF c rS @Svq @cf an S, A@ sw Uq jJ BS  aT S | ZS@ AS rS cUUq U@ gc OfS gf rS j o@pGS @p Acrf@H | ~oF@ rq T ~T TS AcrKHTkU@ rSrm B ZU S | cf BfcS ~crF AAS SvFrm, ~rm jce ~SFSF emp JA Acg @S | ~ TSBS  s @SR AcKq TS rf | J @a W jce cq Bw l AaU S AcrK | jAU~v, AU, qv R @ AS rN ~UOS @T ~T -- jqc UZ@ sS ~T TTA@, qc^, @UA U Z c SS | Zc B@ AaU q T | j@v H Aq; j@AS @SR j@ ecn c^ @Ar U ~U AU SFAU @v sMS prFAU @, J OS SA@ AcKAv A TU AcpGq @r  | q ~AT TSBS@ cUUT j@AS, "SAa, AU SA@ sMS ~dAO a |" ~AT OqAaUT J@ cI, ~AT @ BAS | TSBS A@ ~T T^cFAv AA gc ASUS ~ cUUS, "q SA@ ? ~T A@  TS  S Z s@ |" jq AAS AU ZSq cq AS jUS jce ~T A@a sMS p ~er  rSUS | "A@ TS  T ? ~AT  cUc s cFv jZS cr Ay - AAS AcKAv gwq @S |" cIU S, jqoS r R  |

~AU : o ASAha ZS@ AS jTS @c ASAT Wv S ? WvSAv A@ Zcq AcU ?

Awfr :  gwcS, FJ, Zcq AcU | jce Zcq mAm@ | jTS j@BS TSK R sJ @a qeAB j@v gKq, ~@r SQn c mw c S, v jTASq ~rAA cF | A@ AF aR AAS ~R SSS AcK ~Swf AaUS | AAS TFAB@ Z S | ~ BTS SS BTAv ZU ZU gUcS | J@ ~A Bq AST^H @ s @SR chO B^AS Av j TFAB@ r @ | ArUg ~S@ QR AaU J | OUA gK cwo, oJo, JAU, @qB -- jc AaU J gfKH A | @v@Av ZU gUcS AAS, q ZU T sZS S ~c AT v AO sv qha A ZU  | ~AT ~S@c O @R  AAS J@ | AAS AR BSF Sv@R AUZS | Tf @ T AAS @gSAB (Koravanji) ST j@Av @AT@ An@ AUZS | s cFv AAS ZS ~T cO oJo UAaUS v U @Sv@ AcrAcFU BSF AO J j@Av w^, ST c.... (Proverbs)

~AU : ~AS A@ wwU- (Gaadegalu) @ cUaS ?

Awfr : FJ, wwU | cqAv jZSR cB R s jce j@Av FA@  JAa | j @ OA @ ~S@AU BU emHR cAa | ZS@ AS ~S@ gc jv J wUAT, q S, j@ qeAB ~oF@ - AAS A@S oJo ~ c TAB@ ls AS ZTZ T S @aS |

~AU : jce R @^ gK, qeAB S !

Awfr : FJ, @v Ai@ | AAS TSK TZ TZ  @AAS ew @AaUS, ~TR @TS cZ UwAaU ABASKv | jaR AAS ~Sc @AaUS j@r rNf cfPrc OT^f @Ac "cOS" ST@ m\ PWF @AcAU | AScS AUew wf U@BS a ~ @q c @Ac AcrK ZJBZc ZS S | @^ gK ~oF@ SB AaU @cU T@cF A@, cIq a, sw Uq "@^ AT\vS", "@^ T" ~A AcrKH cFc OU | A@ TSBS "cOS" AU@ @Ac Ac gUcAaUS cUq d @AaUS ~Sc | j Uq J@ A ZU @ US jB  | J ~Sc oH w iAaU  OS @q | TS ~a, AOS gK @  ~Sc  rSS | "j@c T rHf  c", AAS cUS, "T rHf a ~ A@a AS T S @ BS Sq |" J ~@Av cOS AaU, "~SF @d ~A T OS@ ~Lm @ j@v  U ~Sc | DK ~Sc B^ |"

~AU : TSBS A@ U T@U US jAw @ TSK AaUS ? gcAa, ZS@ AS gcK @BS U@ @ Rgc U ZAaUS |

Awfr : ~T BSrS ToF AAS j@Tn  ASTAB TSK | ~ qv  A@ @AcR q - AAS c ~ww BSS | qeAB ~SF ~oF@, sTS Ag @ w@@ c re@ T@Ar-S@, J AcrK a^ @Ac AaUS rAU-- sMS gcS ~ha^ qv cf @U @Ac ~mAm U J ; J ce qv T BfcS TAxv@ @Ac ~Swf AaUS | jce J ASBR cr ~ZF @Ac AUZS | w@@ sTS j@v @Ac AUZAaUS s , : :.....,    gU sRq gU ! ~AT Tc @AcAv  Acrq @ AAS j cB, Acr AS j@T ~wT@ UZ c | @AcAv AU@@ AS UZ | T mc@Av U (i JA cf ~cpA d @US)

Ti cf sXo
wA T Am
cJOUS rv@ sZS
 AaU  Tp !

~AU : ~S@v ABSf Sq @Ac TS !

Awfr : S, S, A@ cUa ABSf Sq ~S@ cAr ~SgkAcH R ecf | ~c j@ TSq c s w@@q ~T T ArQ@ AsAS ~oAS@ qeAB @Ac  AO @ AAaUS ~T | AAS ZS ~T @UB ~oFQ jce Zc B AaU J @a sR | @Ac Ac sJ @^ gK ~oAS@ jSAaUS AAS J ~SFT | q @UB gA c  Tq ~AT J @a sq jce ~oAS@ @Ac U@ ^S @A ; AAS  q ~T cUUS ~S jce TF@AS @Ac  | jJ cq ArQ@ Ac USfS jce @Ac AcK J TT ArTUNo R Swg | ZAU J @AcArQH ~ @Ac OS g ~rTS BATS @ | Ag jT qST ST ~@BS OTl@ ArQ@ AaUT, AAS vT A @Ac R SF S wgf ~^pA  | qST jT j  ~AT jAU~v  BAT" (F Rmv UF) i @ AaUT | ~T AcK AaU A@ wAHrm Ac j, ~AT ASB  JA@ A J  Aw J cp ST (jJO @ AaUT cUU gU c S) | ~O qST sZS ASB ~Sc d @US, AAS ca ASUS FSS, ~cwcH UZ, sTS Ag j Z@ TAi gK SF ssA | J cAXocpA c vU WvU jQn -- J @a ~oAS@ AF TS s qeUF UZ  |

TSBS Qn j@v oS l U s AAS s S  cq J ASB UZAUAZ  BA | sZS T T J T @cFw^ kn (F AcAwASe) j BSF SS m US, TSBS Rq w^ @ J @Ac  ASAaUS ~T jce Zc ^H J UZ @ A@a rNc^ R gKcFc U o ~T cUAaUS @SR gf @Ac Q jgc UZ ~c | "j U TpgK @ rN AScOS", AAS cUAaUS |

~T TS ~a, j@c AAS cUAaUS s gcK @U AAS qeAB gK UZ d @S S jce v c c @q @ c | T A@ UANo @ c s ~AT v 50 j r@ @ cUAa, sZS jq cc AXo^v \@gc ASS S @ | ZS pAcf AaU  T A W ~ swsw j@Tn  AaU BB | ccq @ g s Uw  AS  | ~AT sZS ~  wUT, ~T Ac cq jAaU BBWv, ~ @f @^, sS TpF Wva ~T | AEOT AaU ZS ~S@ ~S@ k |

~AU : qeAB UZ BSF c s c jTS @ gcUS @S AAS ?

Awfr : AAS Acr @S, j ~ AUAg j@Av rN o @ cU s, sA S j@Av gK "~^TZfS" UANo @ c S , sgc TpgK@ cFc @ s,  U A BTv cJoc S @SR UZ |  sc @U jce cmcBfcS  @A | ~c sc gf @Ac ZS qeAB gK AUZS, J @ A ~A - J TkU TFv U s J sc qeB @a qeAB gK ArQ ASaS, J jr jAaUS jTS j@ gK rZ s rS ToFT A@ pBSrfU AF@T cS S | J jTS j@ B^ F s, sAR c TAxv@ R AgvA @Ac UQHZ   J c S,  UR J SB c dv c@ c J f R | jce J Q AS ~^: j@v @ \UZ @ AO -- J ~S@q dH gf ASm @aS qeAB gK UZ @ jce ASHgc  OAU @aS TpgK A@ | J Zq cIAaUS A@@T cB TU cd  j @UT @ |

AF @ cU A@ ABSf Sq J B^ @Ac g cO ecSrfU | J gq f^S OoF, TTA@ ~R ~S@ Tq O A AUZS | ~ AT  BSq, cf^S ASB AEOT J UZ d TUOS R LLR qeAB UZ OAU sS | TUO@ c@FcH J@ ~crFq fA @a, A@ qeAB UZ AAS c^ @SAS |

TSBSq T gf @Ac AsAS qeAB @Ac UZ TFAv ~SocS @aS | jq Ac AO^v cTq J T AaU @H ATU c @^ AF US qeAB AF  J @ AaU USTkU@gc cAr WAS R cFAw |

~AU : TSBS ATU gK ZU Zc j@v Aco AaU A@ ?

Awfr : v ~AT Ai@ cU c S | T A@ Zc c Aco AaU S | sAR ATU J TpgK, jq gK  J @ ~S@ J@ a cU ^  | ATUS BF ~S@q Ac @S TSBS ATU j@cq BSS S | AEOT ~c AcrAcFUAU ZJB ASU Z sc s Prrc @ ATU gK J mha^ AcOH jce AF ArQ @ cq BS | ~AT sk BAS jq q Td v oH @Svq Ai@ S | cA Prrc @q J ATUS AaU OUSq, TpgK sTS , A@ ATU AF J ASAc, ~@i ASTBS Wva AO@w ~  | ~AT J BSF SgkA co @A | ~T mU ArQ T @q @^ gK, A@ m AaU qeAB AF OS jce q q gK ~T ZU c TS U wAa P@r @q | ~c sZS ssA AUZ d @A, ~SwU cA ~ @^ gK | TSBS ~cmv AaU ~S@v ~T TSq | gU @, T sw WvAaU A@ J  AO @ ?

~AU : S, :Z AcK,  AS | ~AT ~TA@ ~A J TpF cr @@ ca  |

Awfr : U ~R Acr @ J @ cAU | ~T aUT @ @lA cU gc | ~ @UB ~T J TAU mgc AS cUcAU @T | J @im AaU JO  cJo ~ il @ J@ aJU OT@ iS | AAS jqgc ~CU U j@v A@a ZcS (~CU AcST, Uc gA @ ZUS) c ~U @ U ocS j@v cq (~c gA @ ZUS) | ~T s J aS aS W cT, jq AaU ~T scQH | cAXo fA AAS AaUS ~S@ JO, A@ j@ fSTSF AO^, j@ TSA@ AS ~gc @ @ Z J@ ; ~ Sg @pA TSK AaUS AAS - @UB an OZ jUq o  J "K" Ac | A@^, ~U @v A@ - dHf anf OZ j@cq o  S J TAU mgc | AT A@ TA @v @ OS ? AsAS wT AwS@ AS cq AUZaS j@v ; ~R j@Av OTl@ cq w R | TA ~T q @UB S jce TSBS@ gUq AOSS | AAS cUS, " ATF @ ! sgc AAS T A@ @S, q OZ ORq cI sc J MdK | anf  J ~OH @S ~ c qSAAcrS AaU S | ce  cFAL AaU @TS cS Os |"

~AU : jq @TS cS  J @AcR Z s !

Awfr : ~AT T v ZU @AAS, ~T @a cO ~@KHf AaU J cAXoT... J @TU cpAAU AaS s ASA, U@S rA @ cI Aa ~S@  | ~S@ T AAS gfKH @i, AcrK @ ASB R | TkU @v U - AAS c ATAU j@BS TSK - BAvU jce ~^X^ ATrH Zcq AO@K@ jce f@ ; AcrK @ jTS j@ ArQcFcm s TkU UQF U ananf @SR j@v BfAc@ BSF m @ | J @Ac s qUvv q@AU ~ qA An@ a ,  Zq ~AT To |

@Ac @TS R AO  AcK J j@Av ss oH AaU | @@ "~cwcH", "@TU" c "hacU" ~cm ZU AAS F @ S S | WpH @S TTmrf cp c Sv@ ~AgS@ | "@Ac W Tnq @s@f R AO" - AAS @ aU cUS | J AcrK ~@KH AaU av, TOTO, AAT @Ac (sTS, T, cOS c qv) | AAS AaUS sAcf jce B wU cUS ASB OS TUOS@ ~cwfSgc wH @ AO | ~crF jTSR a s ~SF, @i TUOS Z AAS w ~S aS | AAS @Ac @i ArT Qf AaUS | "@Ac@  c AcS !", "AcrKH ZUq @v c R", "T Z TS sn -s A  a UR" | cUq cUF s qeAB AF ScF TUO@ AAS ~c rXo @S jce Zc B A ~T@ cUS AS c@ R cv S RS AO @Ac cI  (~mvFAe Av) w^Av TS A  | mf@ @ ~A Sq s w^Av   ~T BfcS ~ Acv AcS | cf @U AO@w AAS A@iTLL (Structuralism) X AcrKgc gAc S |

~AU : AS  U @SRTq wB^ ATScf cAXoBfcf AaUS S ?

Awfr : S, AS TSK  gUcS | ~TSAK@ ArT @ S | ASB wcKH @ J @i fT AaU S | c ASw Q BSF J@ ASg @  ~SF R | c T @@ @ c J , J ~cUcS | jce ~S@ T fT aA sc J AcR | 1958 U sZS AAS TA@S Ag BSF Zm @ ccq jAaUS, J cUwJR j S an BfcS ~A @ UAaUS @@AS | AAS  ccq j mvU   AaUS,  ~c AaU s A Tk J qT rS BSF @@ J  @ c jce c Bw @@ J  s c | cI A J mf TAU BfcSR Zc j@v B AaU S |

~AT ~crF J jq Sac^ OA cFv Zc cAr ZU @AAS ZS ; ~AT AaUT J HTo - AAS  g s AS q b@ s avZv gUnAv |

~T TS ~a j@c AAS cAU mvrS @ vS ocS | oR @ cAU c TqU k, AAS o cUS ~T s c J  - ~AT j@@ AB | FvT ~Q, ~AT AB @UT, "@Ac ~A@ cU A@ cI ?" -- ~ A@, d U J ~AcmHf cOSgA rN , "BS , @Ac ~A@ cU ~U @ AZ c T A@a Sq...." @ cU cU ~T JAv FvT j^ @ R^, j@vS vS ~ s^ - j@q AcK AS AAS cU wUS ~Acr^,  qR AF @, ~R SSS ZJAvSAv, jce ASB @Ac @R c U S | AAS ASB @Ac PrAU ~UOS R cFZF @ a^ @S - @Ac sc A@iT ~c a^ A cFc @aS AAS, jqc jq oS il d R, ~A@A\ ~UOS @ ~AT ArZAa O, sAR AXogc @SRASq ~AT J an AaUT S | j@ fW OH, @A @S c ~UOS, J AvA@v c vS ABgrS BSF UqS JA, ~T OZ TS J@ ZT j@BS cAXof ArQ@ @ kH @Ac, gc@, rAS@ R ~Sc@ AH  | J  @ ~T jq Acov AaU, ASB Bw AAS AaUS cAT |

~AU :  U q ~ AAS AaUS AF@ ~oAS@ ?

Awfr : A ! jce OqS AF TkU oAv ATr s | TS ~a ~T anBfcS @Hv@ @UB j@v @S^ AaU- 1957 c 58 U ASAZUg qeAB ArQ@ US | AT mv@ ST j@ AcAvr TAU, AAS @U@ qeAB S jce qeAB ArQH AcK cq AUZAaUS, q US sw S | J cp AAS cUS s sc gf @Ac qeAB gK @Ac UZS,  cOSgA jTS j@v a^ j , s j@cq qeAB S | TSBS J@ J ASB UZ @Ac ZS - AT mv@ OTl@p AaUS J @Ac  | AAS cq@ cU cS - j@ dH fTS @Ac Z ATUa | jce @v aA  - ~T TS ~a c j@BS qeAB ~oF@  TSBS@ J ASB @Ac ASAcTS ~UOS @ SAaUT - AT mv@ q ~oF@ @a TSBS @Ac ZFA @aS | jv A J BS cFAw @c - ~AT cq BSU o ~^@ JA cvq UA@-OA SAaUT [A] | 1959 U AAS Ucqv cpA AS qAS sc sw US - J c ZS AAr aJa | ~TA@ J AcrAv US TS T | Ac AO^ c ~PSA@ AO^ T S Z AAS HH IJA US J wcKH @B | j UR UU gU | AT\vS A J@ AO@w @ ASUS | jZS aS A @U TS  TSBS c A AcKAU j@q TS j Tr AO@w - cwo AS J @B@T, rA@AAS J wgf ~w, Sf UZ @Ac AS J wcKH, gATkU@ R ATU @Ac ~Sc - cA@a, jv Zc MgwF cF | rK c AcKAU@ j@ S@Ar @J cS S AAS, s@ cU gf empA kH LL | ~AcrF !

~AU : ~AS \UZ @aS TScf @Ac AcK TSBS wgf ~w @ jce J @Ac AcK cO ~EOsBS@ cFv U, AAS ASB dK R LLR J @Ac Sf j Hc^ R Bfc^ | Zcq Ug WvS - ~AT ~dH @U@ @Ac ZAa A@ ~SF @d OS AcrK OZ AS |

Awfr : Zc AF @, ~T T j @H cArgw @Acq Prrc @va cpl j@^cf Ac | ASB jce Z -BFi cS  j@ c iU  TSA@ j@ oS ecSrfU ~ | A@ cArgw Qnq cOq cAr gc  T jce ZS, TSBS TS,  Acc @ pbe@\, cFALTf TAU | sTS TAU j@ ~c pbO TSK, ~mf@ @  Sq | TSBS Qn J mgcUg Uc @ Sf  AcrK @ pA sF @a |

A ~A J AF @ - TSBS ~T cI sF @AaUS s TTA@ gf @Ac qeAB gK s @Ac AUZaS  @pAnT, ~, g, cU wU, Tp | s BS gf @Ac jQn SS BAT wUS SS @pAK@B BSF, J US ASAT jBA@U jce T | TSBS ~crF @Ac Bw j Am US ZAS@v  | BS , j@gc cU wU, ~ATq J@ ~Acy @A |

~AU : q ! A@ gc ?

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Awfr : FJ ~ q AS ~T wc rK Sq | Z, sZS ~AT ~ sq, ~AT ZS sw Aq ~ qASgAAv  emAv | j@AS S UT J j@Av SS @cFw^ AAB @r @ OUaS, ST "~ @AcU", @ BS mvURA ASBR @Ac | ~AT sZS r A jUT, TSBS@ AUZUT J @Ac AUA i ; AAS iU ~AT  e@US @  @ AUT US ~ qASgAAv  ~A | sZS @TB  jU, ~AT AU AS Z @UT BSU TFSB  | AAS B qeB, ST  A@^, AsAS cU wU, emAv gf rZAv@ Prrc @ w UaS ; gf @rS Bw AAS ZS A@p TS Sf | US iS ~w ~AT @AcAU J@ AZ J TT OqUT | AAS cUUS, "AT jU@ @Ac cUa @S BAS S | Z TS ha wF@ UqS gC AUZ, j@ Bw @ @v ~SF Bw Jv A F cSS a |" ~AT  cUUT, "Zcq :AZ, A@ ~AT j@cq j@T  Aa S ~S ," ZS@ AS ccc  jqgc @ cU ~coF @r @ ~@\Sf AaU | AAS  AUS, " U jq @AcAU gf rZ ~SAS@ Ar Ac iS OUc S ; A@ AT sA T cFAw Ar  i OR  ~T ~A Sq | ~AT AB UT, ~crFq | vq @ @AcAU BB@ wU, AcTS@ S, @H @AS w Ar AaU S | mvURA A@ Zc ZAr US, cUUS TSBS jZSq cr rATS @Ac jce gAcKF @UBf @Ac c cS a |

~T @a j@ Acv UF TS U v | ~AT @B d @Aa ~FAmvFxv TFSB Ac, A@ BSU TFSB T R Aw US ~A AUA Ai mf@pA R j@v AcrU AcB ~SgkA | jqgc mha^ A@ (F mvq ) cqAv @r WvU | ~ BS , TSBS j@Av AOAi ~T@ AUZAaUS s J BfcS ~\ @@Av Z WvS ToF cqAv @r ~SFT | c ATAU AAS j@ ~Zf, AcKu TSK ~  cArgw @Hq TS  Acw |

F mvq w^Av Av c@ qAv  re  | Zc ~S^  ~T jce A@^@ AB @A  @a ecAv WKH @ c A@ S | J , "~T TS  @ Sq |  c ecA@ ~w @U J ASBq ZJB ScS |" J A@gc v @cS,  AS @SR oHq AaU S ~T | U @ BSS U S jce gcK @q BSU S cqAv @ ; @SR @wB c n-An@ ~UOS sw U S cqAv AS | TSBS ST a d @ sZS ewqS @r @ J Arc  (mfA@e ~c Arc) w^Av |

Speaking of Siva
~@Av qxvAmve F - TSBS Ar@w AcrAcFU AQH jrf AF Acgw ~oFS @B mAL c tenure Ug @S TkU: jq w^Av BSF | @pQ lf AaUS J@ tenure A A@ j@vq ~Aco - J @SR dLkH wcKHn ZSR @Ar AS | sZS F mvq cdU, ZS AcrAcFU @pQ AXo^ @US, jq OUc | cIq a ZS@ AS TA@S AcrAcFU ArQ@ Bw AaU ~S@vq ~U |

jZS \UZ @ @ J T @ | TAU ~T@ cUaS s F mvq sZS cdU AAS j@ @A cq AS T @a wUS, "~, FZ ~T T cq !" AAS j@c BSF A@ ZUS Tn jce :AZ m cUUS, "@ AS P PO @ cq, A@  c@ @   S @S  @q gc TA |"  U cI cF | RS T  ~T T Z ~R ~S@ , sZS AAS ~ TAU TB c @S | ~T T BS  BfcS dLkH ~ | T jce TAU |

~AU : AcrK @ TSBT ~ J T qA gAc @ AcK ~AT ~wf | ~AS A@ TS @S s J @Ac aS W  ~@, jq cwf SvFUAB s ~T Z q,  jgc cFZF @ c ? jTSA@   s j @H TSBT r J T  @ S S ?

Awfr : A@^, AT A@ BS, J @Ac s TT-@@-TA-AA U - jJ A@ A @\AS@ | TAU j @ ~T A S UR ~@ qA cUaS | J OS Acmp j@^cf Ac @ gc wU TAU T AAS iA@aS i@ U@ |

~AU : A@ J OS A@ @SR gcq J ASB cmS c Ac  s ? jq s ~BfcS c ?

Awfr :  jTSR  , W S @, W Zf BfcS sS @ cF R | ~AT  AS cAr A@a cU sc S | J BfcS @SR @SR TF B ~SF TSK OZ o  S - ~^: ~T OZ | j@v H, TSA@ AcrKH J AaU wgf ~w | wU T WaS q@ ~FSAUA j@ mU @ ~SF mU, A@ "rT nT Uq ZS U a AaS", TAU A | A@ rT ? v ~AT @SRASq o AAS | AAS TAU @ c T cU sS A@ Prrc @ @ZSR S | Tfrk, J cc AaUS ~e@ ArQ@, T j@ cA J ~mS, J ASB cFc BSFq c j@v W | q cUwJR j j@v av cA J AcrU Ac   aA cJO ~c@r AaU S | q cS, AS gq ~ T | AcAv ~PSA@ ~cm e@vT, qeAB j@ dH ~oF@, @pGTkA, TSBS avcS B@ Ac @ OqUS | I@T@ BU j@ sc@, gAcKF gU, jce cQ|H | A@ O ~A T A@ @ - cQ|H UR Ai@ Bwn JO cQ|H S, J T - j  T cS Ac A  S AT | rK s^ Acv ~crF U | c Acq j@T WvS Wv @ - ~T AO c S  w ~R C OS | c TB, TSBS ~ TAU e J T A@ j @aS, ~O TAU oT AAS AZS |

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(c, TO, 2006)

The original interview in English has been published in the South Asian Review; Vol. XXVI, No. 2, 2005, pp 217-236.

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